29-Nov-81 10:48:48-PST,5086;000000000001 Mail-from: ARPANET host BRL rcvd at 29-Nov-81 1048-PST Date: 29 Nov 81 11:27:29-EDT (Sun) From: Mike Muuss To: list: Subject: TCP-IP Digest, Vol 1 #7 Bcc: TCP/IP Digest Sunday, 29 Nov 1981 Volume 1 : Issue 7 Today's Topics: Query: TCP-IP for RSX-11M? List of TCP-Capable Hosts UUCP Networking Concerns + Internet Issues General Networking Issues "Fair Game" in TCP-IP Digest Query: TCP-IP for NOS/BE? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RCOLE at USC-ISIE Subject: for TCP-IP digest I would like to obtain information from anyone who has (or knows of) a TCP-IP implementation for RSX11-M, the machine in question is an 11/70. Any help gratefully received. Reply to: Robert Cole, University College, London. RCOLE@ISIE ------------------------------ Subject: Re: TCP From: CERF at USC-ISI To: MCCUNE at USC-ISIC Cc: tcp-ip at BRL [TCP] TELNET is available on all ISI hosts; FTP is available on the VAX and is being worked on for the TOPS-20 by BBN (Charles Lynn). A list of TCP-capable hosts is in [ISIF]TCP-IP-STATUS.TXT. TN runs on the TOPS-20 ("TelNet") and can be used to go from ISIC to the VAX. Vint The file at ISIF is in need of updating - Jon Postel will be pulsing the TCP implementers for new info, but you may find the current version of some interst. ------------------------------ From: chico!duke!unc!smb at Berkeley In-real-life: Steven M. Bellovin Subject: Re: systems news articles From duke!dbl Wed Nov 18 14:01:41 1981 Date-Sent: Wed Nov 18 13:57:35 1981 To: unc!smb Subject: systems news articles MMDF- swd has done some looking into it as well, and thinks it's the way to go. We've heard from farber and crocker at udel that we will probably be the next csnet site to go online, so we'll be getting the most up-to-date version of MMDF sometime this month (or maybe early December). I'm rapidly coming to that conclusion as well, and the sooner I see some manuals and some code, the happier I'll be. I just read RFC754 and RFC799, and it's becoming apparent that the ARPAnuts are setting standards which we'll have to adhere to if we're to talk to them. And the whole uucp addressing mess is getting out of hand -- and that says nothing of changing topologies (what do we do with wolfvax's mail when they hook in to MCNC instead) or the distinction users here have to make between pnet mail and uucp mail. Add in ARPA, CSnet, and maybe Berknet among the duke machines, and you have a royal mess. I'm inclined to start a new net newsgroup to discuss mail, networking, addressing, etc., from a UNIX/uucp point of view -- say, net.net (fa.tcp-ip appears to be too specialized, though I'll route a copy of this to the moderator). ------------------------------ Date: 19 Nov 1981 07:40:13-PST From: cbosgd!mark at Berkeley Subject: Re: systems news articles Having a newsgroup to discuss nets is different than discussing mail. I propose net.net and net.mail. I'm not sure net.net is needed - does fa.tcp-ip subsume it? There will probably soon be a net.csnet, too. Mark ------------------------------ From: Mike Muuss To: chico!duke!unc!smb at Ucb-C70 Subject: Networking Discussions in TCP-IP Digest? Steve - While the masthead "TCP-IP Digest" is really rather specialized, I had intended the Digest as more of a discussion on IMPLEMENTATION issues of networking (as opposed to Philosophical discussions as get found in HUMAN-NETS). The troubles with multiple networks, and the variety of message formats (for mail), and routing problems in general are all fair game for the TCP-IP digest. You are welcome to have this networking discussion in the TCP digest -- if the volume becomes too great I would be willing to clone a new digest later on. BRL polls Duke via UUCP, so messages addressed to ...!duke!bmd70!tcp-ip should make it to the digest (no need to go through Berkeley). Give it a try. Our RMAIL is smart enough to prevent accidental gatewaying; sorry. Cheers, -Mike ------------------------------ Sender: DRDAR-MST at OFFICE-8 Subject: TCP/IP and the CYBERS From: Richard Sitnik In a recent message Mike Muuss mentioned that there are plans to install a version of TCP-IP on the CYBER. Also, in Issue 6 of the TCP-IP Digest Mike mentioned that Tektronix has implemented TCP under NOS. I would like to find out more about plans regarding TCP-IP. In particular, do you know of anyone who is working on a NOS/BE version? I have spoken to Tektronix and their implementation will only work with NOS and requires a HYPER channel. They are not aware of any NOS/BE efforts. I will prepare an item for the TCP-IP Digest detailing my discussion with Tektronix. RICH END OF TCP-IP DIGEST ********************